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Plan C: Biden-Obama Ticket

Paul Bedard, reporting at the Washington Examiner, shares these details:

Biden-Obama is ‘Plan C’ ticket

“A Biden-Obama ticket would have a much better chance of beating Trump,” said legal scholar John Banzhaf, a professor at George Washington University Law School.

“Barack Obama is probably one of the few persons whom a majority of Americans would want and trust as president, so Plan C might be the least objectionable of a number of very unpopular and dubious options now open to Biden and the Democratic Party,” he said on Thursday.

Banzhaf cited analysis by constitutional scholars dismissing concerns that the 12th and 22nd amendments bar a former two-term president from the vice presidency.

“The 22nd Amendment, which is most frequently cited as a bar to Barack Obama ever serving as president again, doesn’t — according to its carefully crafted and very narrow exclusionary language,” Banzhaf said.

The key sentence in the amendment says, “No person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice, and no person who has held the office of the president, or acted as president, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of the president more than once.”

Banzhaf said “while this amendment may bar Obama from ‘being elected’ to the office of president again, it obviously and by its clear language doesn’t prohibit him from being elected as vice president, and subsequently becoming president by succession without ever being elected to the office again.”

Desperate Measures?

This suggestion seems absurd, but it is a clear indication of just how desperate Democrats are at this point. The idea that Barack Obama could potentially return to the White House, not as an elected President but through succession, is a tactic that reeks of desperation.

Final Thoughts

The Democrats’ current situation appears to be precarious. With Biden’s declining mental health becoming increasingly apparent and public trust wavering, they seem to be grasping at straws. The suggestion that Obama should replace Harris as Biden’s running mate in 2024 is a testament to their desperation.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think this ‘Plan C’ could work? Share your views in the comment section below.

Rowland Greenwade

Dick,

You asked me about the UT - A&M baseball situation.  My short answer is that Texas stole the A&M coach "fair and square"!  Longer answer is available if you are still interested.

You also seem to be suggesting that Michelle Obama could be a good candidate against Trump in 2024.  

Two questions: First:  What are Michelle's qualifications, other than being First Lady?  Short/long answer is "None."  And, why would she ever want this responsibility at this stage in her life?

Second:  If being First Lady is a "qualification" to be President, why are you and other Democrats passing over Doctor Jill?  She has certainly demonstrated her passion for the job and her husband's agenda?

Just asking...Think about it!

Again, Best as always,

Rowland
 

Rowland Greenwade

Dick,

Further, speaking of First Ladies and their qualifications: What about Hillary?  At least she polished her resume after FLOTUS by becoming a US Senator and working as Secretary of State.  Then ran for President and had her election {coronation] stolen by the perfidious collusion between Trump and Putin.

Question:  Doesn't Hillary "deserve" a second, real shot at her destiny?  She could, at least, stand up on the debate stage and speak cogently for the "preservation of Democracy".

Rowland   

Dick Storey

“perfidious collusion” ---good one Rowland.

I know some about what happened from the retired coach I mentioned. There was nothing dishonest I know of the move (steal).  It was just the way the coach spoke and behaved that bothered reasonable people. I felt bad for the A&M players as well.

To the various plans and questions: (We did learn she should not run for dog catcher). First, I want someone to beat Trump and I don’t think Biden can do it unless he takes advice from Dr. Gupta and passes (which I doubt he will).

From the CNN website, July 5--Dr. Sanjay Gupta: It’s time for President Biden to undergo detailed cognitive and neurological testing and share his results.

Hillary—I don’t think so. Trump would trounce her.  Therein the dem’s problem: Who then?

Rowland Greenwade

Dick,

In the spirit of "bi-partisanship", I offer this suggestion:

THE Dream Ticket:  Hillary Clinton for President, endorsed by none other than Rush Limbaugh as the "smartest women in the world", and Hunter Biden for Vice President, endorsed by his father, Joe Biden, as the "smartest man I know".

As an acknowledged partisan Republican as I admit to be, do not EVER say that I am not looking out everyones' interests.

Best as always,

Rowland

Nelson Evans

Rowland

😂🤣😂😅😂😅😜😜😜

FYI, that last emoji is me, since I'm blind in my right eye. They made it especially for me.

Connie Schuerman (Von Dielingen)

Terrific conversation between you fellas !   Love it !! 

Rowland Greenwade

Connie,

Thanks for your thoughts. Just to prove that this site is NOT all about politics. Do you have any comments on our East Jr Hi 9th Grade Home Room teacher, Mr. "Coach" Staton?

In my life, one of the two most influencial teachers ever!

We are blessed to have gotten our education in the Roswell Schools.

Does anyone disagree?

Rowland

Gary Price

After pandemic closures, kids are still behind. Can you do their math?

https://wapo.st/4cSpqbH

Connie Schuerman (Von Dielingen)

 Hey there Rowland !  I whole heartedly agree with you about having Coach Staton at East Jr Hi !   Do you remember Nancy Ward's father being East Jr Hi's principal -he was another person to influence my life !                                                                             AND Gary - NO I'M DEFINITELY NOT SMARTER THAN A FOURTH GRADER !! 
 

PS .... speaking on politics "IT'S A SAD MESS"" !! 

Dick Storey

How’s this Roland?  😊

I had a 450 Honda around 1970, then got married to a medical person and away it went.

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I always wanted a Triumph Bonneville. Or. of course, a H.D.

Randy Richardson (Richardson)

Wow dick, Tom Steel is still riding dirt bikes and doing well with it. I had a Suzuki x-6  in early 70's, my buds had Honda and HDs. this litle X-6 wold run cirles around them but souded like a garbage diposal. then a Honda and up to a Yamaha 850. dropped a couple of um but no harm. Did teach me to watch other drivers with better eye.

Go Coyotes

Dick Storey

Randy,

Wow, you youngsters go get ‘em!

To math and our recent experience.

Our grandson, who lives with us, just finished 5^th grade. I could not believe the math they did from adding and multiplying fractions to long (long!) division, all by hand. Then some new math that we did not follow very well. Reading and writing too but, alas, they did not teach civics or much geography.  His teachers worked very hard at teaching and learning and they were demanding of the students as well.

But Gary is right, USA scores are not so good compared to the others.

Bruce Benson

I decided to create a paper outlining some important economic facts that I discovered.  

Many years ago an old mentor of mine, Jack Danials of Hobbs, NM, pointed out to me that, all B.S. aside, one party just runs things better than the other.   Perhaps this proves his point.  

Stock Market Gains, National Debt Increases, and GNP Growth by U.S. President (1960-2024)

This report outlines the stock market performance, national debt changes, and Gross National Product (GNP) growth during each U.S. presidential term from 1960 to 2024. The data is also summarized by political party.

Stock Market Performance

1. **John F. Kennedy (D, 1961-1963)**

   - Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) increase: +18%

2. **Lyndon B. Johnson (D, 1963-1969)**

   - DJIA increase: +44%

3. **Richard Nixon (R, 1969-1974)**

   - DJIA decrease: -13%

4. **Gerald Ford (R, 1974-1977)**

   - DJIA increase: +40%

5. **Jimmy Carter (D, 1977-1981)**

   - DJIA increase: +2%

6. **Ronald Reagan (R, 1981-1989)**

   - DJIA increase: +148%

7. **George H. W. Bush (R, 1989-1993)**

   - DJIA increase: +45%

8. **Bill Clinton (D, 1993-2001)**

   - DJIA increase: +210%

9. **George W. Bush (R, 2001-2009)**

   - DJIA decrease: -25%

10. **Barack Obama (D, 2009-2017)**

   - DJIA increase: +148%

11. **Donald Trump (R, 2017-2021)**

    - DJIA increase: +56%

12. **Joe Biden (D, 2021-2024)**

    - DJIA increase: +34% (as of mid-2024) 

[oai_citation:1,Stock Market Performance By President: Compare Stock Market Performance Across US Presidents](https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/stock-market-performance/) [oai_citation:2,How the Stock Market Did Under Every US President - 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/economy/2024/05/03/how-the-stock-market-did-under-every-us-president/).

National Debt Increases

1. **John F. Kennedy (D)**

   - Increase: $22 billion

2. **Lyndon B. Johnson (D)**

   - Increase: $43 billion

3. **Richard Nixon (R)**

   - Increase: $121 billion

4. **Gerald Ford (R)**

   - Increase: $224 billion

5. **Jimmy Carter (D)**

   - Increase: $299 billion

6. **Ronald Reagan (R)**

   - Increase: $1.86 trillion

7. **George H. W. Bush (R)**

   - Increase: $1.554 trillion

8. **Bill Clinton (D)**

   - Increase: $1.396 trillion

9. **George W. Bush (R)**

   - Increase: $5.849 trillion

10. **Barack Obama (D)**

   - Increase: $8.335 trillion

11. **Donald Trump (R)**

    - Increase: $7.8 trillion

12. **Joe Biden (D)**

    - Increase: $3.0 trillion (as of mid-2024) 

[oai_citation:3,Stock Market Performance By President: Compare Stock Market Performance Across US Presidents](https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/stock-market-performance/) [oai_citation:4,How the Stock Market Did Under Every US President - 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/economy/2024/05/03/how-the-stock-market-did-under-every-us-president/).

GNP Growth

1. **John F. Kennedy (D)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 4.3%

2. **Lyndon B. Johnson (D)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 4.9%

3. **Richard Nixon (R)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 3.1%

4. **Gerald Ford (R)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 2.1%

5. **Jimmy Carter (D)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 3.3%

6. **Ronald Reagan (R)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 3.6%

7. **George H. W. Bush (R)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 2.1%

8. **Bill Clinton (D)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 3.9%

9. **George W. Bush (R)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 1.7%

10. **Barack Obama (D)**

   - Average annual growth rate: 1.6%

11. **Donald Trump (R)**

    - Average annual growth rate: 2.5%

12. **Joe Biden (D)**

    - Average annual growth rate: 2.4% (as of mid-2024) 

[oai_citation:5,Stock Market Performance By President: Compare Stock Market Performance Across US Presidents](https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/stock-market-performance/) [oai_citation:6,How the Stock Market Did Under Every US President - 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/economy/2024/05/03/how-the-stock-market-did-under-every-us-president/).

 Summary by Political Party

- **Democratic Presidents:**

  - Average DJIA increase: 93%

  - Average national debt increase: $3.205 trillion

  - Average annual GNP growth: 3.4%

- **Republican Presidents:**

  - Average DJIA increase: 51%

  - Average national debt increase: $3.587 trillion

  - Average annual GNP growth: 2.53%

This summary provides a clear overview of economic performance metrics associated with each presidential term and highlights trends within each political party.

All of the Democrats, except LBJ (who benefited from JFK’s economic recovery efforts), walked into office in the midst of either an economic downturn, slow economy, stagflation,near monetary collapse or near total economic shutdown.  The last two situations were certainly the worst and those two recoveries have been remarkable. All Democratic Presidents, except perhaps Carter (who left it about the same), departed office with the economy in better shape than their Republican predecessor left it for them.

The facts are out there.  I am not willing to be swayed by lies of any politician, Web site or political TV network. 

**Sources:**

- Facts First [oai_citation:7,Stock Market Performance By President: Compare Stock Market Performance Across US Presidents](https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/stock-market-performance/)

- 24/7 Wall St. [oai_citation:8,How the Stock Market Did Under Every US President - 24/7 Wall St.](https://247wallst.com/economy/2024/05/03/how-the-stock-market-did-under-every-us-president/)

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Mexican Witch Killed Trying to Kidnap a Baby for Human Sacrifice

One of the biggest lies that the American people are told is that the illegal aliens flooding into our country are just as “American” as we are. All they have to do is touch the soil of our great nation and, let’s face it, they are now true-blue Americans. Figures like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer will tell you that illegal aliens are even more American than you are. So shut up and pay for their dry cleaning, Obamaphones, and luxury hotel rooms. But are they better? It seems like all this cultural enrichment that we’re receiving thanks to Joe Biden is making the country worse. For example, how would you like to end up with this lady as your next-door neighbor?

Mexican police say a drug cartel witch named Maria Guadalupe tried to kidnap an 18-month-old baby last week to conduct a human sacrifice to the patron “saint” of the cartels, Santa Muerte (Spanish for “Holy Death”). This incident happened in Ciudad Juarez, directly across the border from El Paso, TX. Police say that 33-year-old Maria has a history of drug trafficking, conducting Satanic rituals for the cartels, and human sacrifice.

Wouldn’t you just love to have someone like her move into your neighborhood? That would really spice things up.

The baby that Maria had targeted for a human sacrifice was the son of her own nephew. She told her nephew that she believed the baby was the reincarnation of a dead relative of theirs. At some point, Maria decided it would be a good idea to sacrifice the baby to Santa Muerte. She asked her nephew several times if she could kill his baby, but he refused for some reason.

Although Santa Muerte has been completely denounced by the Catholic church, the “patron saint” is heavily worshiped in parts of Latin American culture—especially the drug cartels. The fake saint is depicted by statues of a cloaked skeleton woman holding a globe and a sickle. Earlier this year, a cinder block structure holding a shrine to Santa Muerte popped up overnight along Camino Real Highway in Ciudad Juarez. Shrines to the demonic figure are also popping up in the United States as Joe Biden surrenders more American territory to the cartels.

Drug cartel members believe that Santa Muerte can give them special powers, such as making their skin bulletproof when they get in gunfights with rival gangs. They also believe the fake saint will protect them as they’re smuggling drugs and people across the border. Police have been finding altars to Santa Muerte in stash houses near the border, most recently in Fort Worth, TX.

Maria Guadalupe grew tired of her nephew’s objections to her big plan. She broke into the young family’s home on Sunday night with the help of two unidentified drug cartel thugs. Maria tried to snatch the baby away from the young couple so she could kill it for Santa Muerte. That’s when her nephew, 23-year-old Carlos Gabriel, did what any sane father would do in the same situation.

He cracked the witch’s skull open and beat her brains out with a baseball bat. Police later found the skeletal remains of another person Maria had sacrificed at her house, buried under a concrete slab with a shrine to Santa Muerte on top of it.

The moral of the story is that the millions of Third World immigrants pouring into our country are not as American as you and your family. Many of them, as evidenced by the shrines to a demon popping up all over the country, are more similar to Maria Guadalupe than they ever will be to you. The America we know and love is eventually going to be destroyed if this invasion is not stopped and reversed with mass deportations. You cannot replace the people of a nation without replacing its culture.

Dick Storey

Rolling Stone---this week.

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A Guide to Project 2025, the Right's Terrifying Plan to Remake America

Story by Nikki McCann Ramirez and Ryan Bort    A Guide to Project 2025, the Right's Terrifying Plan to Remake America (msn.com)

“It is not enough for conservatives to win elections," the group writes on its website. "If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left,”

 The country is not in the grip of the radical left, not by a long shot.  

Rowland Greenwade

Dick,

The "Rolling Stone" says...?  900 Pages...Have YOU read even one?  If so, specifically, WHAT do you object to?  Lots of talking points, no specifics.  At least, when I post something, I have read it.  For instance you once repeated an allegation that the President of the US was "an officer of the United States."  I had something to go on to show you that you were completely wrong.

I look forward to your critique of the Heritage Foundation's Plan...Maybe even the GOP platform which we should be "debating" vs the Democrat platform which we have yet to see.  These are the "ideas" worthy of discussion today because they are the ideas the candidates and parties are running to enact.  

Best as always,

Rowland 

Dick Storey

Rowland,

I have scoured the WWW and cannot find the original document online. Do you have a link?

I have read summaries of the 900 pager. There is much to discuss and much to be very concerned about.

Are you enjoying the heat in TEX.?  Well, damn, we have it as well, low 90s.

Cheers,

Dick

Rowland Greenwade

Dick,

www.project2025.org/policy

But, be forewarned: it is a 920 page book, filled with big, ole bad, scary "ideas" and "policy suggestions"!

Rowland

Dick Storey

Thank goodness, the shooter did not have a scope on his AR-15 style riffle and law enforcement spotted him quickly (all based on what is on the news this afternoon). Of course, multiple questions remain unanswered at this point.

It is a shame we live in irrational, exasperated and polarized times, characterized by abhorrence, violence and even war.  There are no easy solutions.  

😢  -------->  ✌

Dick Storey

Rowland,

I read some pages and saw several scary things.

Nova Guynes

I decided to cut down on Political post but after talking to my son in California, I decided I had to post what he said. 

My son owns a restaurant in San Jose, when it came on the news that Trump had been shot, many in his restaurant cheered.  That says a lot for how some Democrats in California think. 

Nova Guynes

   A staffer for Mississippi Democratic rep Bennie G. Thompson has been fired from her job after posting on social media that she wished Thomas Matthew Crooks, the suspected shooter at Donald Trump's Pennsylvania rally, had taken "shooting lessons" so as not to "miss" the next time.

Nova Guynes

  “I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump posted on his social media website. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."

It looks like Project 2025 isn't the Republican Platform.