WHATS NEW


 
go to bottom 
  Post Message
  
    Prior Page
 Page  
Next Page      

07/30/22 07:13 PM #6174    

 

W Leggett

DICK, THE REASON FOR THIS IS Blindsided by a Republican retreat from a bill to aid veterans exposed to toxic burn pits.

U.S. Senator Jon Tester vowed Thursday to get the legislation back on track.  PRIOR TO THE VOTE ETC. SEVERAL THINGS GOT ADDED OR DELETED FROM THE BILL.  SORRY TO SAY I AGREE WITH 

THE CHANGES WOULD HAVE SCREWED OVER THE VETERANS BADLY. IT LEFT /REMOVED SOME THINGS. 

ONE OF MY GRANDSONS WAS OVER THERE AND TOLD ME A LOT ABOUT THE BURN PITS.  HE ALSO TOLD ME  OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WENT INTO THE BURN PITS.  THE JP4 FUEL WAS POURED ON TOP TO MAKE IT BURN. IT WAS AS BAD AS BURNING THE SHIT CAN'S IN NAM. A DIRTY JOB


07/31/22 12:20 AM #6175    

 

W Leggett

A Marine Corps trumpeter participates in a wreath-laying ceremony during the dedication of the Korean War Veterans Memorial Wall of Remembrance in Washington, D.C., July 27, 2022

A Marine marches by the statues of Korean War soldiers at the memorial.

Korean War Veterans Memorial, Washington, DC

 


07/31/22 01:10 PM #6176    

Willard Brownson

Here is a response to why the burn pit bill was not voted for

Joseph Hickman, who authored a book on burn pits, said: “Jack is right, everyone would have voted for it, if the Dems didn’t add 400 billion dollars in additional spending to the bill that has nothing to do with the burn pits. It was a political move in an election year.”

But then, adding 400 Billion to a 280 Billion is right in line with tax and spend politics

 

Bill

 

 


07/31/22 04:23 PM #6177    

 

Dick Storey

Well polticians add "pork" to most bills, but that certainly does not make it right. I did know this had been attemped, but not the staggering $ amount.They should clean the legislation up, make it help vets (really help, not harm any!) and pass it, from what I have read.

Bill--It a good thing I only said my "2 cents" and not my "2 bits."  smiley


07/31/22 10:35 PM #6178    

 

Dick Storey

Maybe some of the following statements explain the ostensible $400 billion over 10 years: maybe. Sorry, the text is a bit long.

It does not seem the democrats addded $400 billion to the bill.  Looks more like political maneuvering and buerocratic accounting/budget speak to me.

A group of senators is using veterans as pawns and are engaged in political game-playing with veterans’ lives (said decorated Marine Vietnam veteran, Mike Lawson in the Montana Standard newspaper today). He said this vote is “unconscionable” and retaliation over an unrelated Democratic bill that was passed.

Legion: Senate action on PACT Act ‘absolutely unacceptable’

The American Legion website, seen today

https://www.legion.org/veteranshealthcare/256457/legion-senate-action-pact-act-%E2%80%98absolutely-unacceptable%E2%80%99

The American Legion and other veterans advocates gathered in Washington, D.C., today to criticize a Senate vote that again has delayed passage of what is known as the PACT Act.

The Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics Act – which has passed in both the House and Senate – received technical corrections and went to a procedural vote in the Senate on Wednesday. The 55-42 vote failed to meet the 60 votes necessary to advance the legislation.

Speaking for The American Legion during a Thursday press event on Capitol Hill, American Legion Legislative Director Lawrence Montreuil called the delay “absolutely unacceptable. A bill that passed the House of Representatives three times and passed the Senate with wide-ranging bipartisan support – 84 senators voting in favor of it – will now be delayed, and once again veterans will suffer. 

“The PACT Act passed the House and Senate in a bipartisan manner, yet this delay continues because of political games. There is no reason this bill should not be signed by the president by the end of next week.”

Montreuil said the delay impacts toxic-exposed veterans who already have had to wait long enough for their care and benefits. ..................................................

U.S. Sen. Jon Tester, chairman of the Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs: “We’ve got to get out. We’ve got to call. We’ve got to have your friends in the military and veterans call, your civilian friends call. Because what happened yesterday is totally unacceptable. What happened is they voted against the men and women who fight for this country who want to come back to civilian life and have a normal life. And not only those folks, but their families.”

 

 

Fox New website seen today

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-pat-toomey-holds-final-approval-burn-pit-veterans-aid-package-citing-spending-concerns

Toomey rips Dems trotting out ‘pseudo celebrity’ Jon Stewart to ‘make up false accusations’ about veteran bill

Despite a historic Senate vote in June for approval of a new bill that would provide millions of veterans treatment for illnesses associated with their exposure to burn pits, one senator is holding up the final signing into law by President Biden — flagging concerns over the spending involved.

The Senate voted 84-14 last month in favor of the Sergeant First Class Heath Robinson Honoring Our Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics (PACT) Act of 2022. The bill, which was passed with a majority vote in both the House and Senate, represents the most comprehensive veteran health care reform to date, establishing a presumptive service connection for veterans made gravely ill after inhaling toxic fumes that hung over their bases overseas, including in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The bill went back to the House, which recently passed a revised version, but further passage has been delayed after Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., spoke out against the bill saying an additional amendment on provisional spending needed to be added.

"Senator Toomey has blocked it. And now he wants to introduce amendments completely rewriting the way that it's paid for out of some false and very convenient fiscal concern that he never had for the defense budget or for the wars that created these toxic exposure difficulties in the first place," comedian and activist Jon Stewart said in an interview with Fox News.

"And once again, it's the same old story," he added. "Always money for war. Always want to balance the budget on the backs of sick veterans. And now it's even more despicable, because having passed the act, giving great hope to the families of wounded veterans and their caregivers that are suffering from this without the health care and benefits that they've earned, it's being held up once more."

John Feal, who has lobbied in Washington with Stewart for legislation for both burn pit veterans and 9/11 first responders, says he's disappointed that Sen. Toomey did not do what was "morally right."

"[He] is holding up and preventing our nation's heroes who protect us from harm's way 24/7 and in the health care they deserve," Feal said in an interview with Fox News. "Shame on Senator Toomey…those amendments are not new, and this is just another way of holding this up and delaying the inevitable."

On June 23, when the Senate deliberated the PACT Act after a cloture vote, Toomey expressed his concerns with the language of the bill. He argued that there already was $400 billion allocated in the discretionary spending budget, and that moving it to the mandatory spending budget would be nothing more than a "gimmick" to avoid spending caps. The senator said his amendment to keep the budget under discretionary spending would prevent the potential for "huge excessive spending" in other categories.

"Senator Toomey is asking for a fix to prevent the PACT Act from being used to increase spending completely unrelated to veterans," a spokeswoman for the senator said in a statement provided to Fox News. "As currently written, the PACT Act includes a budget gimmick that will allow Democrats to increase spending totally unrelated to veterans by $400 billion over the next 10 years. Sen. Toomey’s technical fix would prevent this unrelated spending without changing any of the underlying policy in the bill" (my uderlineing).

Secretary of Veterans Affairs Denis McDonough, who appeared after Toomey on "State of the Union," said the senator’s amendment would lead to the rationing of health care for veterans.

"The ($400B) fund is in the bill so that we can ensure … that all this spending for this program is for the veterans exposed to these toxins," McDonough said. "And so he says it won't impact our programming – in good conscience, I don't see that to be the case. In fact, he puts a year-on-year cap on what we spend, and then at the end of 10 years, the fund goes away under his amendment. So the impact of that would be, if his estimations are wrong about what will spend in any given year, that means that we may have to ration care for veterans. And by the way, that's not something I’ll sign up to."

------------------------------------------------

Guess this one just set me off.

Dick

 

 


08/01/22 09:05 AM #6179    

 

W Leggett


08/01/22 09:10 AM #6180    

 

W Leggett

DICK REFERENCE POSTING, GREAT POST & THANKS

07/31/22 10:35 PM #6183     EDIT     DELETE

08/01/22 01:11 PM #6181    

 

W Leggett

 


08/01/22 06:54 PM #6182    

 

Marie Gaines (Harris)

GREAT ONES...KEEP THEM COMING!

 


08/02/22 11:38 AM #6183    

 

Nova Guynes

Things that make me sad 


08/02/22 03:02 PM #6184    

 

W Leggett




08/02/22 04:36 PM #6185    

 

Marie Gaines (Harris)

laughGOOD ONES!  KEEP THEM COMING!

 


08/02/22 05:06 PM #6186    

 

Dick Storey

Ted Cruise (R, TX and Steve Daines (R, MT) shared a fist  pump when the PACT bill was not passed by the Senate. The MT newspapers are blasting Daines, and MT is a very red state.

 


 


08/02/22 11:52 PM #6187    

 

W Leggett


08/03/22 11:09 AM #6188    

 

Nova Guynes

 

New images from the James Webb Space Telescope look deep into universe



08/03/22 11:13 AM #6189    

 

Nova Guynes

 

 I wonder if the Democrats will be able to keep the January 6th hearings going until the 2024 election.


08/03/22 05:05 PM #6190    

 

Dick Storey

 

8/3/2022

ASSOCIATED PRESS and MONTANA STATE NEWS BUREAU

Following days of being in limbo, legislation meant to ensure health care for veterans sickened by toxic exposure from burn pits cleared the U.S. Senate after Republicans ended their opposition to the bill.

The 86-11 vote ended weeks of delay that began with a constitutional concern over an obscure tax provision that had to be removed. And the holdup grew longer after an eleventh-hour objection from Republican senators last week who pushed for an amendment to change how some Department of Veterans Affairs health care spending is accounted for in the budget.

President Joe Biden is certain to sign the bill into law in the coming days.

The legislation, long sought by veterans groups, means that millions of veterans suffering health problems will no longer have to prove their illnesses were caused by exposure to toxic substances from military deployments. Many served at bases that used open-air burn pits to dispose of trash and hazardous waste.

The bill would make service members who contracted any of 23 conditions — from brain cancer to hypertension — after being deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan and other combat zones automatically eligible for VA benefits. The measure is expected to cost nearly $280 billion over a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

 


08/03/22 07:21 PM #6191    

 

John Radzinski

Thanks for all the posts regarding the burn pit legislation for veterans. So sad to listen to the "news" and go away not understanding why an obvious needed legislation is not passed. So sick of the media. I remember my daughter Alane telling me about the burn pits on Balad AFB in Iraq when she was there. I'll never forget that feeling in the pit of my stomach having my brave, young daughter over there and in Afganistan serving our country. We owe our veterans a debt that can never be repaid, but we sure as hell need to try. Oh, and I yelled and clapped when that 80 year old store manager took care of business with his shotgun. Good for him. Stay safe everyone. JOHN


08/04/22 01:01 PM #6192    

 

Nova Guynes

That is good that they are addressing the Veterans that have been affected by the burn pits

If it is agent orange, burn pits, ptsd or other things that have injured our Veterans, it should be covered. It is a shame all the crap they try to pack onto the bills.

Do Veterans have to wait to be treated in Veterans Hospitals?  I thought Trump passed a law, that if a veteran had to wait longer than 20 days or drive over 30 minutes, they could go to a local doctor, and it will be paid by VA.


08/04/22 08:56 PM #6193    

 

W Leggett


08/05/22 12:04 AM #6194    

 

Cheryl Corazzi (Essex)

Oh dear, I may never be able to eat a brownie again!


08/05/22 03:04 PM #6195    

 

W Leggett


08/06/22 04:18 PM #6196    

 

W Leggett


08/07/22 12:23 AM #6197    

 

Cheryl Corazzi (Essex)

I fired myself from housekeeping for those same reasons ages ago!


08/07/22 04:44 AM #6198    

 

W Leggett




go to top 
  Post Message
  
    Prior Page
 Page  
Next Page